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Illegal to teach a child religion.
Topic Started: Jul 27 2014, 04:14 AM (1,181 Views)
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How would you feel if a law were to be passed that made it illegal to teach someone religion until they are 18 years old? Opposed to it? For it?
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I would be opposed because I don't think religious expression should be in any way outlawed; however, I do think that parents should raise their children to be more open-minded and not drill religion into them. That will never happen, though.
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Well if banning creationism being taught then yes.
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I agree with Fangirl.

Even though I consider myself a bit of a militant Atheist, I do believe in people's rights to live as they please and teach their children as they please; as long as the child is safe.

I don't believe that anyone should be restricted in their belief or their way of life, as long as it doesn't infringe upon others rights or harm others in any way.

For example, I don't have a problem with Christian ideology, I just have a problem with it when Christian followers try to block same-sex marriage as a civil right simply because it conflicts with the rules in the Bible. It's the same with our actual understanding of the history of the Universe vs the account in the Bible.
The Universe as we understand it through scientific research, is about 13.8 billion years old, while the Bible tries to promote the idea that it's not over 6,000 years old. This is a serious problem; and a serious gap in the amount of time that the Universe has existed.

This is the great thing about the US. The over-all intent of the US Constitution is to allow people to live as they chose as long as it doesn't infringe upon the rights or the safety of others.

Anyone that doesn't accept this as the basic foundation of the US way-of-life needs either a wake up call, or to simply leave the country.

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Well if banning creationism being taught then yes.
I don't have a problem with Creationism being taught, I simply have a problem with it being taught in science class. Even though I'm an Atheist, I really do believe that knowledge is power. I won't block the teaching of this, as long as it's done in the right place.
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Shouldn't be illegal to teach your child anything. A parent has a right to educate their children as they see fit. If that education leads to a confused or violent child then by all means have social services remove them from the parent for their own well being. But don't arrest them for it.

Zenet, it's important to learn about all aspects of various religions so that we can be more understanding and tolerant towards them. Just don't try to force it into being taught in science classes. It's not a science, Christian science is a bulls*** term created to try and get their religion taught in science classes. Completely needless since you can have all that stuff taught in a separate class. One that I think should be mandatory so that we have way less ignorance around.


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I'd be opposed to it, because if they're able to be taught other things in life like history, economics or geography I just don't see how they could not touch on religion at some point, unless they just eliminate anything in which religion's existence is obvious....we'd pretty much need to close off any ability to know about it and become some backwards community of extremely selective knowledge.

It would be like not teaching kids the basics of math but expecting them to make a purchase or sell anything at any point in their lives.
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Jul 27 2014, 03:38 PM
I agree with Fangirl.

Even though I consider myself a bit of a militant Atheist, I do believe in people's rights to live as they please and teach their children as they please; as long as the child is safe.

I don't believe that anyone should be restricted in their belief or their way of life, as long as it doesn't infringe upon others rights or harm others in any way.

For example, I don't have a problem with Christian ideology, I just have a problem with it when Christian followers try to block same-sex marriage as a civil right simply because it conflicts with the rules in the Bible. It's the same with our actual understanding of the history of the Universe vs the account in the Bible.
The Universe as we understand it through scientific research, is about 13.8 billion years old, while the Bible tries to promote the idea that it's not over 6,000 years old. This is a serious problem; and a serious gap in the amount of time that the Universe has existed.

This is the great thing about the US. The over-all intent of the US Constitution is to allow people to live as they chose as long as it doesn't infringe upon the rights or the safety of others.

Anyone that doesn't accept this as the basic foundation of the US way-of-life needs either a wake up call, or to simply leave the country.

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Well if banning creationism being taught then yes.
I don't have a problem with Creationism being taught, I simply have a problem with it being taught in science class. Even though I'm an Atheist, I really do believe that knowledge is power. I won't block the teaching of this, as long as it's done in the right place.
Exactly, you took the words right out of my mouth. It is no one but the parents business if they wanna pass on their religious views to their children, which is found all around the world at every household. Well i cant say every, but u know what i mean.
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I think kids can handle religion. I've been raised religiously by my parents and even went to a catholic school.
But I never bought any of it. As a kid I believed in god, cause that's what they said in school, but I honestly always thought all the story's such as Noah's Ark and Moses splitting the sea was just BS.
And later I've definitely come to realize I'm an atheist.
Thing is, if you would become an atheist without religious upbringing then chances are you'll be an atheist either way regardless of whether you were raised religiously or not
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Religion shouldn't be taught in schools, but making it illegal to teach it at all to someone below the age of 18 would be over the top, and most likely impossible to police.
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If religion isn't taught in schools then you end up with idiots who think that Muslim is just another word for terrorist. You get people with misconstrued views of the bible because they haven't been taught about the different interpretations of it. All sorts of problems arise because ignorance creates fear and hatred. No one's asking you to believe what you are learning about. I didn't become a Hindu after I was taught about Hinduism. It's better to know about it than not.


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If religion isn't taught in schools then you end up with idiots who think that Muslim is just another word for terrorist. You get people with misconstrued views of the bible because they haven't been taught about the different interpretations of it. All sorts of problems arise because ignorance creates fear and hatred. No one's asking you to believe what you are learning about. I didn't become a Hindu after I was taught about Hinduism. It's better to know about it than not.
I agree.
It's important to teach kids what religion is from a historical or anthropological standpoint, but not promote it as a scientific truth. Religion has shaped our history, but has not shaped our current understanding of science.
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If religion isn't taught in schools then you end up with idiots who think that Muslim is just another word for terrorist. You get people with misconstrued views of the bible because they haven't been taught about the different interpretations of it. All sorts of problems arise because ignorance creates fear and hatred. No one's asking you to believe what you are learning about. I didn't become a Hindu after I was taught about Hinduism. It's better to know about it than not.
I'd be ok with history classes that made reference to world religions in a historical context, when children are old enough to appreciate fact from fantasy. Other than that - no thanks. But that's never going to happen, is it? The problem is indoctrinating vulnerable five and six year olds with Christian Bible classes. There's a difference between learning about the good/bad influences of Christianity, Buddhism, Judaism etc on history and being told that God created everything, only through Jesus can you be saved and those who don't accept him will burn in Hell. It's proselytism under the guise of a 'values' lesson at an age where kids can't tell the difference between a qualified teacher and a religious volunteer with an obvious agenda.

I went to a Catholic school. I got out ok but some of the stuff I remember them saying and presenting as fact were disgusting now that I think about it.
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In my secondary school we had a class called Religious Studies. It's part of the national curriculum to have these classes. You have them from aged 12 all the way to age 16. Each term we'd study a different religion. All of my teachers were atheists so we got a pretty objective education. I feel like I got a lot out of those classes.


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If religion isn't taught in schools then you end up with idiots who think that Muslim is just another word for terrorist. You get people with misconstrued views of the bible because they haven't been taught about the different interpretations of it. All sorts of problems arise because ignorance creates fear and hatred. No one's asking you to believe what you are learning about. I didn't become a Hindu after I was taught about Hinduism. It's better to know about it than not.
Exactly man. All these damn terrorists are just giving Muslim a bad name. So I don't blame people if they get it twisted. That's why i'm with what you're saying.
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I think it should be illegal to teach them outside of school, not giving them any option.


And then in school ALWAYS be taught like "people believe this..." rather than "This is how the world was created..."
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